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Missouri Pastors Fiery Speech Against Equal Rights for Homosexuals Has Stunning Twist Ending

by kurtbethel in

jw
friends

http://gawker.com/5953357/missouri-pastors-fiery-speech-against-equal-rights-for-homosexuals-has-stunning-twist-ending.

back in august, during a springfield city council public hearing on amending the city's nondiscrimination ordinance to include sexual orientation and gender identity protections, rev.

phil snider of the brentwood christian church lashed out at the council for "inviting the judgement of god upon our land" by making "special rights for gays and lesbians.".

When You Were A JW Were You Disturbed By "Apostate" Literature or "Apostates" At Conventions?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was always curious about what they had to say.

(i guess i was an apostate in the making)..

hemp lover

This is for Broken Promises and no one else

I grew up in a very small town in Illinois, pop. 10,000. Fred and Kate Gholson were the cool, younger elder and wife. They would have parties for the teenagers where we'd dance to the Bee Gees in their super neat basement.

We always looked forward to Fred's talks because he was funny and not boring. They owned a security company and anyone in town who had a security system would hire them to install it. They gave me my first job when I was 14 and paid me less than minimum wage to sit in a tiny office on weekends and monitor alarms.

Right before everything went to shit, Fred had a local needs talk at the service meeting. He had interviewed all the teenagers in the congregation. Well, almost all, because he didn't talk to my brother or me since we were the PO's kids. Fred got on stage and read really awful statements from the "youth" of the cong, such as "The elders are Nazis." and "Why are they always calling us youths?" lol

It was devastating. There was total silence in the hall and my dad had the next talk. All I can remember is that his voice and his hands were shaking as he tried to address what had just happened and I was really worried that he was going to cry.

The next thing I can recall is that Fred and Kate disassociated themselves after a prolonged battle to avoid it and then they started picking off fringe members of the cong. They took out ads in the local paper every day attacking the Watchtower and giving a number to call for more info. There were billboards up in our tiny town denouncing JWs and bumper stickers, letters, etc. They picketed the Kingdom Hall on Sundays. I tried to read their signs but my parents were insistent that we not look. I remember seeing something about 607, but that didn't mean anything to me at the time.

This seemed to go on for years, though I don't know how long it really lasted. The KH was out in the country and there was only one road to get to it and Fred and Kate lived on that road, so it was a huge deal when they started putting up holiday decorations. It was also a huge deal when they got divorced years later. I can still hear the righteous vindication in my mom's voice when she announced this momentous news.

I haven't thought about any of this for years, but it was really very traumatic when it happened. Getting the paper every day and turning to the classified ads to see what they were saying now. But my intellectual curiousity just didn't exist then, and I was a stupid teenager and never followed up on anything I read. I wish I had. Could've saved myself years in this religion, but then my daughter probably wouldn't have been created, so I guess it all worked out okay in the end. I'd love to talk to them today though.

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How Suicidal Thoughts can take over your Life.

by Lady Lee in

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friends

how suicidal thoughts can take over your life.. i lived most of my life thinking about suicide.

i have clear memories when i was 8 years old thinking about what it would be like to die.

i went to sleep every night of my young childhood saying the prayer:.

hemp lover

Hi, Chris! How are you? Thought of you yesterday when Big Tex was going up in flames. I didn't grow up here, so I was surprised by how emotional people were about it, including my daughter.

@Lady Lee: I was asking about grandchildren, because I had a feeling that your youngest would never have said that to you if she had a child of her own. I truly believe that if she's lucky enough to be a mom someday, she'll realize the deepness of your love for her.

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How Suicidal Thoughts can take over your Life.

by Lady Lee in

jw
friends

how suicidal thoughts can take over your life.. i lived most of my life thinking about suicide.

i have clear memories when i was 8 years old thinking about what it would be like to die.

i went to sleep every night of my young childhood saying the prayer:.

hemp lover

(((Lady Lee))) Please don't leave us.

Do either of your daughters have children?

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Missouri Pastors Fiery Speech Against Equal Rights for Homosexuals Has Stunning Twist Ending

by kurtbethel in

jw
friends

http://gawker.com/5953357/missouri-pastors-fiery-speech-against-equal-rights-for-homosexuals-has-stunning-twist-ending.

back in august, during a springfield city council public hearing on amending the city's nondiscrimination ordinance to include sexual orientation and gender identity protections, rev.

phil snider of the brentwood christian church lashed out at the council for "inviting the judgement of god upon our land" by making "special rights for gays and lesbians.".

hemp lover

Actually, Outlaw, I think he loves everybody, if you know what I'm sayin'.

I didn't realize how much the segregationists used the Bible to justify their stance. That's some nasty shite.

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Missouri Pastors Fiery Speech Against Equal Rights for Homosexuals Has Stunning Twist Ending

by kurtbethel in

jw
friends

http://gawker.com/5953357/missouri-pastors-fiery-speech-against-equal-rights-for-homosexuals-has-stunning-twist-ending.

back in august, during a springfield city council public hearing on amending the city's nondiscrimination ordinance to include sexual orientation and gender identity protections, rev.

phil snider of the brentwood christian church lashed out at the council for "inviting the judgement of god upon our land" by making "special rights for gays and lesbians.".

hemp lover

That was cool!

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When You Were A JW Were You Disturbed By "Apostate" Literature or "Apostates" At Conventions?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was always curious about what they had to say.

(i guess i was an apostate in the making)..

hemp lover

LOL @ Beks. I am, thank you very much. Watching the Giants beat the Cardinals. I want the Cardinals to win, but the Giants have hotter players, so I'm feeling a bit torn at the moment.

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When You Were A JW Were You Disturbed By "Apostate" Literature or "Apostates" At Conventions?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was always curious about what they had to say.

(i guess i was an apostate in the making)..

hemp lover

Interesting stories, everyone.

I grew up in the same congregation that Fred and Kate Gholson attended and was 12 years old when everything started getting weird. If anyone recognizes their names or wants to hear the story, let me know. It's a long one and I'm lazy tonight

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